The "Unacceptable» Playmen and Jay-Z o «Thief"
To sampling is a very sensitive technique. The line separating the "get data from one piece and I make something of my own" with "I make a cheap imitation 'is very thin. To be able to use the sampling to create something new, something that is yours and the identity development requires tremendous knowledge and dedication.
So just started my first post on a series of articles that were titled "Music Evolution". Lately I had left alone, without updates, but apparently, you will probably have to revive the flame of this column. Especially after yesterday's release of Playmen titled "Fallin" , words like "theft", "copy", "adaptation" and «clopy paste» go to the cloud (funny) internetikous "insiders." The stone of scandal was then the chorus of this new single and an article by a well known Greek site saying that "looked like" the oldest song of the new-tone below:
Pay attention at the 0:54
In honor of the journalist who found it and wrote it (not to mention the name of the download page because the article), the site put the title of the text the word "like" and not picturesquenesses as "stealing" and other such beautiful pearls. , επειδή δεν έχω ασχοληθεί και ιδιαίτερα με αυτή την περίπτωση, μπορεί να υπάρχει και ακόμη πιο παλιά έκδοση ή κάποια άλλη παρόμοια με την οποία να ασχολήθηκαν τα παιδιά). I'll go one step further and say that not just like the chorus, but the Playmen affected directly by the piece of new-tone (attention, because I have dealt with this particular case, there may be even Earliest issue or another similar to that involved children). I say hypothetically that they took this point of the song and included it as a sample. So I ask, what is bad;
Perhaps it was (legally) wrong, when not mentioned in the official release of the record company in Playmen credits. Really, it was the official release of «Fallin»? The information from various sites and updates were talking about 9 month. Indeed, the song appeared on the radio and later leakare online and ultimately was divided into countless youtube videos that they lifted the ordinary users. To the official channel of Greek producers have only this teaser until the time of writing, and facebook and myspace have not even own an update. So what people expect to appear in the sample videos that raise me, Mary neighbor and local Dj Santorini (beautiful island) on the Internet;
Or maybe they wanted to titled the "Fallin" , a song in a different key generation, another context and another orientation as «Waiting for Your Love (Remix)»? I am beginning to believe that the world begins and tsouvaliazei remixes, bootlegs, edits, samples and whatever else come down to the mind all along.
In a country where divine titles were written in blogs and forums such as "Jay-Z steals Greek sample», did not expect different treatment or patience for official updates. Pay attention to the title of "stealing Greek sample»! I do not think you need to comment on what is absurd, from the moment we're talking about legitimate sampling.
The fact that members of the band 4 Levels of Existence took their money and that normally appear in the credits of the multi-platinum album «Blueprint 3» not interested in any authority. The fact that Kanye West and No ID (such as producers, not the Jay-Z. Just «Wiki» it!) Unearthed a forgotten Greek god of song, which sat and listened and finally got something this, adding it to a modern production. For "us" is "evil" and counts as "stealing"!
4 Levels of Existence - One day in Athens
Jay-Z feat. Rihanna & Kanye West - Run This Town
The sampling is stealing when you're over 40 and I hate certain types of music (hip-hop with "rapperonia", the "sourgelo» Lady Gaga etc) or when some artists waiting in the corner, as in the case of Playmen. Ignore what the sampling or more generally what they did to the children «Fallin '» and similar cases from our favorite singers and giants of the scene 30 years ago were involved in this production make them gargle.
Three small examples from the past
Michael Jackson - Off The Wall
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Delia Derbyshire & BBC Radiophonic Workshop - Doctor Who
Pink Floyd - One of These Days
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Queen - Another One Bites the Dust
To God, nor compare with Jay-Z Playmen, with Pink Floyd, the "King of Pop» and so on. Just to mention some historical data are recorded for those who forget or who discovered America today. This article was not written to "protect" (from what indeed;) the «Fallin» and any «Fallin», but why not another fought this situation with the spammers, which follow the last few hours.
"So my friend, because he did something similar by Jackson in the past, should I love this thing and I think right;" No, I'll tell you what is beautiful, what is good and what should not you like . Simply, I suggest that we are all a little more patient with such issues and not to use certain words with such ease. Enjoy the songs as they are, then the right Your review (for example: "I did not like the way they married the chorus of« Waiting for Your Love »or simply" I did not like this idea ") not to show graphic passionate and outwardly. Do not worry about the "typical" piece of history. If you have done something "illegal" or not is unclear as it should, stakeholders will be the first to be cared.
Even if you do not tell anyone about the sample, the theft as an expression would be more correct as to the legal question of the situation (not even exist, but we say now). Why creatively, I do not see a foul. It can do more "bang" because it is a chorus, not a sound track production, but I do not think you should distinguish because something seems more or less. It has its own personality as a song, even if "given" in the oldest artistic mini hit. There is no crime in this case and when I first heard, I had the same thoughts I did in other cases with similar situations in the chorus. Good sample? Good production; Matching; "Voice is holding"; In short, the thoughts that should make us all open to serious debate and beautiful music content. It's just music ....
PS: As rightly reminded me Thanos, in the case of Shirley Bassey and Kanye West, although they had cleared everything about legal issues, not only Bassey "cried" by Kanye West, but bowed to the majesty of its production, and even wished to cooperate with him in the near future. And here we are dealing with ...
Shirley Bassey - Diamonds Are Forever
Kanye West - Diamonds From Sierra Leone
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Nina Simone - Sinnerman (starts at 4:55 point)
Talib Kweli - Get By
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Chaka Khan - Through The Wire
Kanye West - Through The Wire
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almost too credited to those grafeis.omologo that the promo team for doing a good playmen douleia.apo the one asking the site that wrote the article to download and on the other this writing Smart someone can understand that says half alitheies.asfalos and sampling is widespread but the other songs find the playmen not know the man and anyone who understood the example katalave.akyro completely with its famous songs used as a sample is clear that there used to be heard pasignosto.otan something but you get an unknown song and put it on your own there allazei.oso to have knocked credits teaser so he could write it there and on the other traffic set a date after the song only the more reason not to bring out official page of their own video for the song and that would be a natural extension of the teaser.
For aftlo not underestimate our intelligence and admit what you have but to prepare kanane.kai finally a full album to draw definitive conclusions and the talent ......
To the first example I used was the song of Jay-Z and Kanye West, using a piece GREEK PANTELOS unknown. In short, the first case of sampling in Article responds directly to what you say and obviously it immediately cancels that supports the first end of your thinking. I wonder if you read carefully what you write or just skip around the articles to take the comment that you have already decided to write.
In any case I baked afieromataki with unknown samples used by big hits. That should return to the "musical evolution"
Second, there is NO artist to keep fans in the world and the teaser and leaks for credits and samples. When the leaked Run This Town, nobody knew that something has gotten out of the 4 Levels. I had to see the official record and the single hard copy to read the credits. Whether you agree or disagree with this way is another matter. I just stress that it is.
Now what you write in the beginning promo team, half-truths, etc. do not comment on it themselves weaken what you want to say.
katharo sample, aplo alla tairiasto. den katalabainw giati trelathikan oloi